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Posted by: Terry Oct 6 2016, 06:25 AM

Maybe I'm a lone voice in the wilderness here, but after 12 years Martin's 78 Turntable is back: biggrin.gif

Posted by: limden Feb 13 2017, 11:25 AM

A welcome voice from the wilderness indeed! I haven't explored Martin's 78 Turntable yet but I'll get round to it.

Anyway I'm still here and will try to remember to drop in now and then in the forlorn hope that this board might even now revive.

Posted by: LloydEwing Feb 13 2017, 05:18 PM

I also miss the recommendations on this board. I wish I had something to contribute. It seems like there should be other message boards with a similar purpose but I have not found them.

Posted by: Roseman Feb 15 2017, 03:54 AM

Well, Hello Fellows, shall we make this a foursome?

I had almost given up on the site of having any more activity and had not enquired of such since last fall.
Then by chance I decided to take another look and surprise, surprise, there was a 2017 post!
Great to see you guys are still around and still chasing this music.

I'm doing the same on my end and basically follow it via YouTube. Never got into Facebook or Twitter.
Haven't seen a whole lot there anyway. But was glad to see that Martin's 78 Turntable is back.
Thanks Terry for the update.

Lloyd, new good recommendations are becoming harder to find. I'll check thru my web links and see
if there are any that I think may be of interest,


Posted by: limden Feb 23 2017, 03:51 PM

Hopefully it might be more than four!

I didn't like Facebook and rapidly left it with a little difficulty. As for Twitter I confess I still don't quite understand it.

I suppose the problem is that there's only so much that can be said about this old music. Most people will find that their appetite can be satisfied by just a few channels of YouTube. Only diehard enthusiasts will explore YouTube extensively let alone go beyond it.

I wonder if it could be useful, especially to any newcomers who may be lurking, to describe exactly how we listen to YouTube and how we download from it if we wish to be sure of keeping something?

Posted by: LloydEwing Feb 23 2017, 09:27 PM

YouTube is an extremely inefficient and awkward way to listen to our kind of music. The audio you want to hear only requires a small amount of data, but it is necessary for you to receive a huge amount of data for the visual part of the playback. The video usually just shows someone moving the camera around a still image, so it adds nothing to the enjoyment of the music. Saving a copy of the song on your computer has the same problem because you have to use so much disk space for the video. I have not been able to find a way to save a copy of the music without including the video, and I think it is set up to make that as difficult as possible. Have any of you found a way to get an MP3 file (or something similar) from YouTube playback?


Posted by: limden Feb 24 2017, 11:33 AM

I'm sure you are right Lloyd yet I can't say that the point you have raised has caused me any trouble - and I've downloaded quite a few!

If there's a moving image that I want to keep then I download from YouTube using Free YouTube Download v.4.1.29.

If there's no moving image (the usual YT video) or there's one where I don't want to keep the image then I download using Free YouTube to MP3 Converter v.4.1.29.

No need to buy the Premium versions.

Example: a tuneful piece by Paul Abraham sung by Jonas Kaufmann and Julia Kleiter ( )

The first method yields a 67.9MB MP4 with excellent (original?) quality moving image.

The second method results in a 3.60MB MP3, audio only of course.

Hope this helps. More on methods later.


Posted by: LloydEwing Feb 25 2017, 07:03 AM

Thanks for the recommendation! Is there a particular reason why you specify version 4.1.29 of the Free YouTube to MP3 Converter? Is it just that this is the version you are using, or have you had problems with other versions of the program?

I see that the Free YouTube to MP3 Converter has quite a few negative reviews on because people say it installs malware on your computer. Some reviews say that you can avoid the malware by choosing a custom install, but a couple of reviews said that doesn't stop the unwanted installs. I should probably do a little more investigation before I decide what MP3 converter to use.

Many thanks,

Posted by: limden Feb 25 2017, 10:53 AM

No special reason for the 4.1.29, it's just what I happen to use. It often tells me it's updating or will finish doing so after a restart but it seems to me that nothing changes. It just works!

I've several times had a pop-up warning that one of my anti-malware programmes (or was it Avast Antivirus?) has blocked something (was it Metagen? Sorry to be vague!). All I can say is that I've never noticed any problem. I often scan with Malwarebytes Anti-malware and SUPERAntispyware free versions and never in recent times have they found anything more alarming than easily removed cookies.


Posted by: Roseman Feb 28 2017, 02:39 AM

There are a vast array of tools available for downloading video or mp3 from YouTube.
I count in my arsenal at least a half dozen - so called Add-ons, Apps, Extensions, Programs -
that I depend on regularly.

Why so many you may ask? Mainly because of my having four computers running three
different operating systems and the variables they present. Believe me, I didn't plan it this way.
But as I became aware of the dangers lurking on the internet, (spyware, ransomware,...)
I separated my entertainment (music, vedios, games, etc.) from my personal/business computing..
Two computers for business and two for play. Pairing this way provides backup capability
and additional security. No downloading allowed on the personal/business computers.

Downloader Programs
As for the YT download programs I recommend, I'll offer a couple. The first is
I've used the basic free model for several years and it's great for single or batch downloads.
It also offers converting capabilities. I use it specifically for batch work (playlists).

If you want just a plain and straight forward one; then this might suit your fancy. Plenty of options; but simple.
Want just mp3 files?, then this one works. Found this one as an Add-on via Firefox.

Another option is to look at the Add-ons and Extensions your browser may offer.
You can usually find them in the tools or menu section.

Utility Programs
To convert downloaded YouTube video files (mp4) to audio (mp3) files I use from NCH. Runs single or multiple files.

Realplayer has a trim feature that is useful for trimming out snipets from large files.
I find this useful when I only want that one song from a long video/musical episode.
A feature hard to find in free software. Trim, save, and discard.


Posted by: limden Feb 28 2017, 11:10 AM

Thank you Don! It's really helpful to know about options for YT download program(me)s. I stopped searching once I had found the pair I mentioned. This is exactly the type of discussion to which a message board is better suited than Facebook while Twitter would be utterly useless.

Now: I have problems casting multiple files to my Chromecast. As it's a bit specialised and we've gone way off topic I think I'd better soon start a new thread but in which sub-forum? None seems quite right so I'll stick with this one.


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