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Posted on: Apr 2 2013, 05:01 PM


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A little more about Raymond Baird

Brunswick recorded Ray as a "test" in New York in 1931, when he was 15. They didn't make a master, just a note in the ledger, so it's probably gone. He played a theme from Liszt's 2nd Hungarian Rhapsody, and judging from the William Tell Overture 78, he could have blown the doors off it. His articulation is so rapid it can only be called freak.

Listening to the YT cuts, he strikes me as very much a vaudevillian in style. His ballad soprano sax playing puts me in mind of clarinet novelteers like Ted Lewis, with plenty of shmeers and playing to the balcony. smile.gif

Ray supposedly did much studio work in Hollywood orchestras, but when he died, he was in New York. He married and was father to one son.

http://www.allthingsancestor.com/stories-w...a-raymond-baird
is a web page about him, with a fun picture from the Buescher instrument company.

http://books.google.com/books?id=VrybVE0S5...p;q&f=false
Here's another Buescher ad, from Boys' Life, October, 1927. Ray would have been age 10-11 and is playing a C melody sax.

Finally...if anyone can locate a 1936 British movie revue called Stars on Parade, Ray is in there playing the William Tell Overture, but credited as a cornetist!
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Posted on: Mar 5 2013, 06:45 PM


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About the time slap tongue finally dropped off the pop music scene, a young German concert artist named Sigurd Rascher - a pioneer of classical saxophone - began incorporating it in his sound, refining it into an almost noteless percussive device.

With a 4 octave range and pure mellow tone in addition to the slap technique, Rascher encouraged modernist composers to write music no one else could play then. Among the first, in 1934, was Lars Erik Larsson's Concerto for alto sax and string orchestra. Rascher never recorded this for public play, but here it's played by one of his school of disciples, Harry White.

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Posted on: Feb 18 2013, 05:20 AM


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QUOTE (gregoryagogo @ Feb 18 2013, 01:53 AM) *

Yeah, that's one way to do it. I doubled a short 2-note brass figure instead, which made it a little less choppy.
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Posted on: Feb 17 2013, 08:43 PM


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QUOTE (gregoryagogo @ Feb 17 2013, 04:40 PM) *
This one was tricky... not sure it's perfect

At 1:23 there's a measure with an extra beat in it (3/2 in cut time).
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Posted on: Feb 17 2013, 03:49 PM


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I can't play redhotjazz files any more, but I'm going to guess that Jack Fulton is singing.
Here's another one of Jack for comparison's sake, a rather nice 1932 thing called 'Til Tomorrow.

Jack actually was a normal human being, a trombonist(!), with a normal voice, as you can hear on this bit of hokum called Sunflower, recorded in 1949.
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Posted on: Feb 16 2013, 07:04 PM


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(double post, because smartphones are not always that smart)
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Posted on: Feb 16 2013, 06:47 PM


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Still lousy, but probably meant to be lousy, is trumpeter Frank Zullo's turn on Old Yazoo with Fred Waring in 1932. With the band way in the background, he overloads the new ribbon microphone like a frustrated Cab Calloway wannabe, shrieking and carrying on like a man who has alighted from the choo-choo at old Yazoo only to be told that his luggage has been sent on to Duluth.
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Posted on: Feb 10 2013, 01:02 AM


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After listening, I agree this is a Ramblers affiliated group.

Now about Techland. As this turned up in Virginia, my first thought was of Virginia Tech, and it turns out I was right!

Google revealed that a poem by that name was written by a student named Marion C. Harrison in 1919. I presume Theresa was a sister, mother or wife and wrote a melody to the words.

Note the record's maroon label and orange surface. This reminds us of a "brick wax" Perfect disc, but notice the orange is much lighter. These are in fact VT's school colors.

Finally, the bottom of the label mentions "Plank & Whitsett, Inc., Blacksburg, Va." This was a drugstore in VT's hometown where the record was presumably sold.

The sheet music to Techland is at VT's library site here, but you need a university ID to view it. Do you know any Hokies who can help you out?
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Posted on: Feb 9 2013, 03:22 AM


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QUOTE (gregoryagogo @ Aug 19 2012, 01:35 PM) *
"I'll Be A Friend With Pleasure" isn't too bad... that was 'the style' in vocals at that point.

Well, it was "a" style. Wes (Weston) Vaughan recorded a good bit with Ted Weems and acquits himself a little better, but damn, not much.

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I find too, that in the music of the 20s and 30s there is a 'fail' in the vocal, and takes away from the great musical styles. I have gone as far as to edit a vocal out completely.

Tell 'em about Sam Sanders. (I hope, for his sake, that that wasn't his real name.)
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Posted on: Feb 9 2013, 03:16 AM


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QUOTE (80rpm @ Jun 2 2006, 10:25 PM) *
Greetings all,
All these postings about gay sounding songs and nothing about lesbians. Can that be because mostly guys collect 78s?

Mostly guys? It's more like only guys.

I would add that once you get outside of jazz (my first love), blues, and country, it's unusual to find a 78 collector who isn't a gay white male. It seems to be an interest that you come to by way of show music, film music, or sometimes opera.

As far as stereotypical gay male tastes (and I apologize for talking in those terms), 78s hit those buttons and a few more - preservation, by way of vintage phonographs - and the general love of nostalgia for a more elegant and remote era.

What interests your (stereotypical) lesbian might have that connect with 78s, I don't know. They seem not to go back much past the 1960s or 70s, or have so much to do with material/collecting culture.
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Posted on: Apr 12 2012, 02:34 PM


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The graphic EQs can be time consuming, as you need to train your ears a bit to find a setting you like, then tweek it for each record or record type.

Some 78 guys like pre-set EQ curves they can dial in, such as on the Esoteric Re-equalizer.
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Posted on: Apr 12 2012, 02:30 PM


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3.0 mil is a good size for 78s in general. Standard 78 size is usually 2.7, but 3.0s will ride a little higher in the groove and miss some of the wear.

Some useful information is at: http://esotericsound.com/CartStyli.htm
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Posted on: Feb 6 2012, 12:35 AM


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Damn.

In the USA this music isn't even considered art enough to play on public radio at all.

Is it all to do with being European and cultured and $#!!? Does it really come down to that?

Weird...good but weird.
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Posted on: Jan 31 2012, 02:57 PM


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QUOTE (gregoryagogo @ Jan 31 2012, 02:36 AM) *
Kewl... wish he transferred them better!

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Dang fools think they're "preserving the value" of their originals by muddying up the sound.
Some so and so on YT actually fessed up to introducing "blast" into his vid because the disc played near mint.
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Posted on: Jan 31 2012, 01:56 AM


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While we wait in hopes of one day hearing the Pontiac disc, here's the 10" sales talk record for the 1932 Chevrolet. A rarity among rarities, this was what you heard if you visited your Chevy dealer after getting the (more common) 4" "teaser disc" in the mail.
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Posted on: Jan 31 2012, 01:43 AM


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QUOTE (coonsanders @ Nov 25 2011, 01:25 AM) *
hi
that label is rens?do you know john leiffert?i met him at a record bash..where r these renovation cd made?im in new jersey..where r u?

lenny

I'm in Iowa, where I grew up. In between I spent 18 years in the greater NYC metroplex, during which time I got to know John and quite a few other crack 78ers. Much of that time I spent as a freelance musician/singer.

BTW Lenny, I consider that time indispensible to discovering the great music of the pre-swing era. Back before the internet it traveled in very limited circles indeed. The audience for the rare genre of the depression years especially was limited to NY, NJ and environs.

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Posted on: Jan 30 2012, 08:29 PM


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Where'd you hear about Kardos being Rollins?

A buddy of mine knew Teddy Lang too. I think there's just the one Crown coupling, but I may be wrong.
Joe Ortolano (trombone) and Paul Ricci (clarinet) were the notables in that band as I recall.

Here's a squib about Sleepy Hall:
"John "Sleepy" Hall, was a banjo player who went to Yale, in 1924. He led the Yale Banjo Club, entertained with his band there and also toured. Rudy Vallée also was in his band at one time and recorded with Hall.  He had an exceptional custom-made banjo made for him by Bacon Banjo Co."
This is by Dailymotion.com contributor "kspm0220s" in connection with a vid of another Hall pseudo side.

I see you're from New York. I think about 9 in 10 of those interested in this depression-era stuff are New Yorkers. I was there 18 years myself...
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Posted on: Nov 24 2011, 08:03 PM


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QUOTE (coonsanders @ Nov 24 2011, 12:59 AM) *
hi
do you buy your music cds from worlds records?its a great service..

lenny


Yep...not only that but I designed and researched several CD packages for Ren Brown's Renovation label - George Olsen v.1/2, Dick Himber v.1/2, Ted Weems v.1. Took my payment in kind whenever I could.
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Posted on: Nov 23 2011, 10:41 PM


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"Two Little Blue Little Eyes" opens the clip.
"Memories" is sung by an incredibly icky soprano, the kind who would have had a New York crowd throwing dinner rolls.
Esmé Neville dances to "Ta Ra Ra Boom De Ay" and her partner joins her for "Daisy Belle."
Comedy business to "Goofus," then...that diity-wacka-ditty-wacka novelty thing...it's called "By Heck." Here's the Victor Dance Ork doing it in 1915.
"Resident dancer" features on "You Made Me Love You."
Crowd trotting it to "This Is The Missus," then "Got A Date with an Angel."
Finale: "All the Nice Girls Love a Sailor."
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Posted on: Nov 23 2011, 10:10 PM


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Rhymes was a British import from 1932. It was written by Leslie Sarony, who authored and sang many a comic ditty including Jollity Farm, Wheezy Anna, He Played His Ukulele As the Ship Went Down, and Ain't It Grand to Be Bloomin' Well Dead.

Leslie sang the original version with Jack Hylton's Band. I would link to it on YouTube but all the vids are thru-the-air turntable recordings where you can't make out the words. I SURE WISH GUYS WOULD STOP DOING THAT.

Being a fairly dab hand at doggerel when the need arises, I would conclude verses 2. and 3. as follows:

2. The horse found her just a bit stocky.

3. And she soon did what she hadn't oughter.


I couldn't improve on Wag's answers for the other two.
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Posted on: Nov 23 2011, 09:52 PM


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Frank Trumbauer is heard on that date, March 27, 1934, for Victor. I assume most or all of the rest were Whitemanites as well.
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Posted on: Nov 23 2011, 09:47 PM


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QUOTE (coonsanders @ Nov 23 2011, 09:14 PM) *
hi
did you ever order from radio archives?are they repitable and good to deal with?

lenny


Never did - found them on a...wait for it...a Google search wink.gif

10 hours of music on a CD - must be in mp3 format - wonder if it sounds like anything.
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Posted on: Nov 23 2011, 06:38 PM


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Speaking of Facebook, is there any 78 interest group on there?
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Posted on: Nov 23 2011, 06:35 PM


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He's not into that, for some reason.

Meantime, learn more about the '33 Pontiac 8 here
And see a shot from CBS' Pontiac Program of the day here
(with Stoopnagle & Budd and Kostelanetz' Ork)
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Posted on: Nov 23 2011, 06:27 PM


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This Radio Archives CD lists the Ambassadors as Jack Smith (1913-2006), Marty Sperzel, and Al Teeter.
Jack's obit confirms the names - he later became well known as a solo singer and TV host.

Dave Marshall also recorded with George Olsen (1932) and Orville Knapp (1934). I believe he led his own band in the SoCal area later on.
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