FOUND A WONDERFUL RECORD!!!, ...what a surprise!!! Options

[victrolajazz]

It's been awhile since I actually stumbled onto a tremendous record, but it happened last weekend. I attended the Packard Meet at the Stagecoach Inn at Salado, TX last weekend where a friend was showing his newly restored '56 Clipper for the first time. Started back to Waco about 4:00 and stopped by an antique shop. They had a lowboy just like my grandfather's with an album of records on top. One was a shame--Original Charleston by the Original Dixie Rag Pickers on red-wax Madison sitting on top...with a pie-shaped wedge broken out of it. I actually think it's the same as what I have by the Six Black Diamonds, 'tho. Inside the album was an extremely rare pressing by Cameo of the Official Boy Scout Record with Jackie Coogan's 10 year old voice extolling the virtues of Scouting on both sides. I bought it and went back to Waco happy--then realized I hadn't even looked inside the machine. Went back down there Monday afternoon and looked through five albums and found 12 more nice records, but this was the by far the cream of the crop:

Ain't that Hateful by Naylor's Seven Aces on Gennett 5393, 2/5/24, coupled with Rengleberg Blues. I've been danching all over the house ever since...

Eddie the Collector

[cristian1929]

It's been awhile since I actually stumbled onto a tremendous record, but it happened last weekend. I attended the Packard Meet at the Stagecoach Inn at Salado, TX last weekend where a friend was showing his newly restored '56 Clipper for the first time. Started back to Waco about 4:00 and stopped by an antique shop. They had a lowboy just like my grandfather's with an album of records on top. One was a shame--Original Charleston by the Original Dixie Rag Pickers on red-wax Madison sitting on top...with a pie-shaped wedge broken out of it. I actually think it's the same as what I have by the Six Black Diamonds, 'tho. Inside the album was an extremely rare pressing by Cameo of the Official Boy Scout Record with Jackie Coogan's 10 year old voice extolling the virtues of Scouting on both sides. I bought it and went back to Waco happy--then realized I hadn't even looked inside the machine. Went back down there Monday afternoon and looked through five albums and found 12 more nice records, but this was the by far the cream of the crop:

Ain't that Hateful by Naylor's Seven Aces on Gennett 5393, 2/5/24, coupled with Rengleberg Blues. I've been danching all over the house ever since...

Eddie the Collector

Hi Eddie, lovely tune, but I listened with attention I saw that tune have a camuflage chorus of "Red Hot Henry Brown" (!!!) Congratulation for your news (olds) records!
Cristian

[victrolajazz]

Hi Eddie, lovely tune, but I listened with attention I saw that tune have a camuflage chorus of "Red Hot Henry Brown" (!!!) Congratulation for your news (olds) records!
Cristian

Wow! You're exactly right! Virtually word for word... I was forced against my will to play it three times--I can never play it just once! There have been other posts about things like that, too.

Eddie the Collector

This post has been edited by victrolajazz: Apr 4 2007, 03:23 PM

[gregoryagogo]

Someone please explain to me exactly what a camouflage chorus is?!!

Also, play the record once to record it, then the other times, listen to the sound file!!

This post has been edited by gregoryagogo: Apr 4 2007, 03:58 PM

[victrolajazz]

Someone please explain to me exactly what a camouflage chorus is?!!

I'll leave that to the experts--Cristian?--I think I know what they're talking about but don't know exactly how to explain it so it'd make any sense.

Also, play the record once to record it, then the other times, listen to the sound file!!

Absolutely! I haven't played the actual record since the day I got it! I'm actually using Red Hot Jazz's sound file.

Eddie the Collector

[victrolajazz]

Hi Eddie, lovely tune, but I listened with attention I saw that tune have a camuflage chorus of "Red Hot Henry Brown" (!!!)
Cristian

I'm sorry, but my mind works slow. I got to thinking later in the day--if I'm correct, I think you mean that Ain't that Hateful has copied an element or two of the Red Hot Henry Brown tune. However, the two Red Hot Henry Browns I'm familiar with, the Charleston Chasers on Columbia, and Busse's Buzzards on Victor, are from well into 1925, August and September respectively, while Ain't that Hateful was recorded in February, 1924. So, perhaps it is that Fred Rose, composer of Red Hot Henry Brown, heard and liked Ain't that Hateful and re-arranged it to suit his purpose. Just a tho't... And now that I've opened this post, I'm just going to have to play this darn record again...

Eddie the Collector

[cristian1929]

I'm sorry, but my mind works slow. I got to thinking later in the day--if I'm correct, I think you mean that Ain't that Hateful has copied an element or two of the Red Hot Henry Brown tune. However, the two Red Hot Henry Browns I'm familiar with, the Charleston Chasers on Columbia, and Busse's Buzzards on Victor, are from well into 1925, August and September respectively, while Ain't that Hateful was recorded in February, 1924. So, perhaps it is that Fred Rose, composer of Red Hot Henry Brown, heard and liked Ain't that Hateful and re-arranged it to suit his purpose. Just a tho't... And now that I've opened this post, I'm just going to have to play this darn record again...

Eddie the Collector

Hi Eddie,
its was very difficult to be able to analyze this musical structure, with my metronome I could see that it is constructed in the choirs and solos with 11 compasses! very rare, generally they are even! Here attached the structure of this controverted but is nice tune.

AIN'T THAT HATEFUL

INTRO 8 BARS
A 11 BARS (?)
B 11 BARS (SOLO SAX)
AA 8 BARS
B 11 BARS (SOLO CORNET)
C 11 BARS (SOLO CLARINET)
A 11 BARS (FINAL TUTTI)

Regards!

This post has been edited by cristian1929: Apr 5 2007, 01:02 PM

[victrolajazz]

Someone please explain to me exactly what a camouflage chorus is?!!

I'll leave that to the experts--Cristian?--I think I know what they're talking about but don't know exactly how to explain it so it'd make any sense.

its was very difficult to be able to analyze this musical structure, with my metronome I could see that it is constructed in the choirs and solos with 11 compasses! very rare, generally they are even! Here attached the structure of this controverted but is nice tune.

AIN'T THAT HATEFUL

INTRO 8 BARS
A 11 BARS (?)
B 11 BARS (SOLO SAX)
AA 8 BARS
B 11 BARS (SOLO CORNET)
C 11 BARS (SOLO CLARINET)
A 11 BARS (FINAL TUTTI)

Thanks Cristian! See, I told you he was the expert! Hope that answers your question, Gregory.

Eddie the Collector